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I was looking through my Wolverine: Origins 5 trade today, and I was feeling nerdy so I was looking at the dates in the Daken flashbacks.  I came across two conclusions.  The first is that Way can't keep his dates straight over the span of two issues, and the other is that Daken is the scariest 14-year-old ever.

First, the dates:



Canonically, Daken is born in 1946.  It says so right there.

And there's more montage, mainly about Akihira talking about how happy he has a child and the other villagers being all "OMG abomination!"

Next in the montage is this:



That makes it 1955.  Yes?  I'm usually not good at math, but I have a calculator to help back me up on this.

The kids then proceed to try to beat up Akihiro until Akihira steps in.

Akihiro later (presumably) murders the leader of the kids.



It's assumed that this is that night, but any passage of time honestly could have occurred.

Anyway, after Akihiro and Akihira attend the kids funeral, they have a heart to heart about dragons and sons and sentimental stuff that Daken won't ever take to heart anyway.  What he does take to heart is the conversation that his parents have after that, mainly that his mommy doesn't love him and his parents are having a child together.  From that conversation there is...



Akihiro reveals he can read Greek, and tells mommy that her child is dead.

His powers manifest as mommy dearest tries to kill him with a bayonet and down goes mommy dearest.  While Akihiro is still freaking out about the pointy things in his hands, Akihira kills himself.

Then this happens:



End flashback 1.  But back to the math.  If it was 1955 when the kids attacked Akhiro, at the least it can be when he kills his parents is 1956, as their deaths occur a year after the death of the leader of the kids.  Like I said previously, there could be a longer span between the time the kid dies and the parents die, but I highly doubt it.  Therefore the parents have died in at least 1956, and not a year sooner.

Everyone agree with me so far?  Good.

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Okay, next issue.  We're like 4 pages in... and hey, another Daken flashback!

The flashback starts



But wait...  1955?  That's impossible.  I could understand if there were several issues between the first flashback and the second, but there's about 10 pages between them.  Granted one flashback is in issue 26 and the other in issue 27, but there's still not that much.  I'm not complaining per se, but sort of disappointed I guess, as Way is a good writer.

All right, math aside, here comes point number two.

After Romulus convinces Daken how creepy he is that he'll take care of him that he should follow him, they cut to a new scene.



So in 3 (4 technically as Way thought it was 1955) years, Daken goes from this:



to this:



Granted, that's not too bad, as it could have been a growth spurt or something, or the suit.  I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt.

Later in the flashback:



Just so you know that only 9 months have passed...



Daken looks like this.  At 13/14, THIS IS WHAT DAKEN LOOKS LIKE.  Holy shit, he looks 40.  I thought the Howlett genes you know, SLOW the aging process, not excel them.

Just a reminder, this is what Daken looks like at 64:



Why does he look older at 13/14 than he does at 64?

I blame it on Cyber.

Date: 2010-08-05 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manicr.livejournal.com
Kind of epic fail. XD

I just realized that Daken is as old as my Dad down to the year, kinda scary.

Date: 2010-08-05 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eva-roisin.livejournal.com
God, I must be equally nerdy because I can't tell you how many times I've thought the same thing! Like, Jesus, he sure is big for a tween or that was one hell of a fast puberty. (I guess it's possible to go throught puberty that fast, but I remember the boys from freshman year of high school being pretty scrawny.) And the "one year later" 1955 thing is also bizarre. I could understand making that kind of continuity mistake if these issues were published years apart, but they were back to back.

Further compounding the weirdness is the issue where Cypher tells Logan about having trained his son. I don't know the exact issue of this, but it's in the "Swift and Terrible" book. Anyway, Dillon draws the teenage Daken as still looking pretty big but not having had a mohawk. He also looks like a white guy.

The other continuity mistake that makes me absolutely crazy is Logan's marriage to Itsu. It's pretty clear that Daken was born in 1946 and conceived fairly soon after Logan and Itsu got hitched. However, we're told that Logan was living in Jasmine Falls for four years before he married her. That means he arrived in Jasmine Falls in 1941 or so--but wasn't he fighting all over the place during WWII? Like at Normandy etc?

Date: 2010-08-05 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkfenixrising.livejournal.com
Easy: Segovia's art and the art of the person I dislike the most when it comes to art in comic books.
Segovia always make people look older. He made Daken actually look younger in the book where he hands the old lady the purse.

And yeah... I already suck at maths, but Way seems to be much worse...

Date: 2010-08-05 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mozzarellaroses.livejournal.com
I'll assume "sped up growth due to X hormones" at his teen hood and leave it at that.

Date: 2010-08-07 08:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hawkwitch.livejournal.com
I'd rather blame the miraculous growth spurt on poor communication between the writer and the artist.

Thank you for the scans. There are many I haven't seen.
Edited Date: 2010-08-07 08:55 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-08-11 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laser-siren.livejournal.com
This also brings up the only time I've ever seen Daken without his Mohawk. I don't know how to leave pictures so I'll have to leave links for you. It's from Wolverine Origins 15.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4882706500_fbbb3d5770_m.jpg and http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4882105529_5d40daf32d_m.jpg

He still doesn't look 14 or 15.

Test, just a test

Date: 2011-11-13 09:07 am (UTC)
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